Ebay Alerts! One item – January 27, 2012

Apologies, missed Thursday alerts due to travel for business. And there’s not too much interesting on Ebay just now anyway. Really! But I did want to discuss one particular item.

http://tinyurl.com/7pzwmwc RARE Antique 17thC Flanders Antwerp handmade lace trim lot linen floral 6+ yards
Size: 3 1/2″ wide x 6 YARDS & 16″
Starting Price: $0.99
Auction ends: Jan 28, 2012 17:50:47 PST
Offered by: Ebay seller shotgun*wedding, MILWAUKEE, United States
Comments: There’s quite an offline discussion going on about this piece. The seller cut an additional 3 yards from the original piece, Ebay #140675419859 sold on Jan 9th, and has now put up the rest for sale, intact. The discussion is basically whether or not it is an early Flemish piece (write me separately and I’ll put you in touch with the conversation).
This is one of those indeterminate guipure laces that no one really has a solid handle on identification. A few things bother me about it. It is very long, fairly wide, and made with a thicker thread. Long pieces of laces like this do survive, often from Italy or Eastern Europe, but it would be extremely unusual for a very early Flanders lace. The design is well on its way to a more stylized pattern that one might expect to survive over a long period of time, but not so far gone that it is unrecognizable. (as in the example shown here)
  (Example, unknown origin, perhaps Easter European)
The ground is 4-thread plaited on all sides of a 5-pointed star mesh, not very clear, but I can convince myself it’s there. There are a few plaited leaves in the centers of some motifs. All of this is indicative of Italian, in the Abruzzi regions, and you see the chunky weaving in Pescocostanzo laces.  (as in this example, and note the way they get some texture in the clothwork, much like the listed piece).
(Example, probable Pescocostanzo origin)
I’m not implying that the listed piece resembles either of these two, but they do have some elements in common. It just goes to show how difficult it is to identify these laces. Yet the listed piece, shown below, does have a delicacy, despite the heavy thread, that could indicate a Flanders origin. I really think that once this more ‘production’ style took hold that it spread to many places.
Anyway, I’m going with Italian, late 18th or 19th century.

  (This is the piece listed on Ebay)
Sold for $265.99, 10 bidders.

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2 Responses to Ebay Alerts! One item – January 27, 2012

  1. Pamela says:

    I concur. It has the look of a peasant lace, and uses the techniques of Pescocostanza; it is very well made, although it has a slightly mechanical look. I wonder at the length, as I would have expected it to have been initially made to order for some specific purpose. It seems overly long for domestic use, and also long for most ecclesiastical use. The developed style makes me think later rather than earlier.

  2. Nancy says:

    It’s not too long for the top edge of a sheet plus pillows for bed linens, such as the Flemish laces in Der Linnenkast, some of which are quite similar to this piece. As you might guess, I’m in the “Flanders camp”, although I agree it could be later–the style might date back to 1660 but would have persisted in use for quite a while for house-hold linens, which would also explain the thicker thread.

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